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This image is of London Bridge where the steeply pitched glazed roof drains directly over the tidal defence into the river Thames.

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Online discussion forum for key stakeholders to review and discuss existing documents and to upload other material you consider pertinent to the project and of interest to the project team.

Accessibility statement

If you require any of this information in an alternative format, then please contact us via email at ray.drabble @westsussex.gov.uk or by telephone on 0330 222 4077 and we will do our best to assist you. If you are deaf or hard of hearing and have an NGT texting app installed on your computer, laptop or smartphone, you can contact us on 18001 0330 222 4077.

We are committed to making this website accessible, in accordance with the Public Sector Bodies (Websites and Mobile Applications) (No. 2) Accessibility Regulations 2018. Please view the West Sussex County Council Accessibility Statement, for further details. Information about the accessibility of the Your Voice Engagement Hub can be found by clicking on the 'Accessibility tab' which can be found at the bottom of this page. Where it exists, we will provide details of any project related content which is not fully accessible under a heading of 'Non-accessible content' below.

Non-accessible content

There are a number of documents which are not in an accessible format (e.g. are pdfs) however we will provide accessible versions upon request where we are required to do so.

If you find any problems not listed on this page or think we’re not meeting accessibility requirements, please contact us at haveyoursay@westsussex.gov.uk.

Data Protection/Data Privacy

As the lead local flood authority, West Sussex County Council will collect and process some personal data in the exercise of official authority vested in the Controller. The data will be processed and analysed for the purpose of this project only. The data will be processed in accordance with the 2018 Data Protection Act, General Data Protection Regulations and any subsequent relevant legislation and will not be used for any other purpose. All data will be held securely in electronic format for a period of up to two years before being appropriately destroyed. West Sussex County Council is registered as a Data Controller (Reg. No. Z6413427). For further information about our Data Controller, please see www.westsussex.gov.uk/privacy-policy (opens in new window).

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    Overview - 17 March 22

    This project space has been set up to provide access to the project team members to relevant documentation, to help progress the over the wall drainage approach and achieve the project outcomes.

    You have been sent the link as a trusted project partner and you have the ability to access and review the existing documents and upload other material that you consider pertinent to the project and of interest to the project team.  

    After protracted delays to the project, I am delighted to report that work has today resumed on this study and West Sussex LLFA is working in partnership with EPG / STRI and Polypipe to review the existing data gathered for the project, complete data collation and analysis and prepare best practice guidance for Over the Wall drainage.

     

    Updates on the key workstreams associated with the project are as follows:

    Modelling of surface water flood risk and related reductions in flood risk from adoption of over the wall drainage has now been completed and two reports have just been uploaded to this blog site.

    Relative costs of traditional vs. over the wall drainage.  Use of actual costs has kindly been made available by one of the Project Partners and analysis of this can now proceed.

    Please share your views and provide your comments using the link provided to the comments form below. There will also be an opportunity to upload a document and share it for others to comment should you wish to.

    Your comments will be reviewed and then published on this site for other stakeholders to see (providing appropriate consent to do so has been given).   Publishing your views enables others to make a considered response if they wish to do so. I will also publish shared documentation provided your permission has been given to do so.

    All published responses will be made available on the 'landing page' (or title page) for this project.  Published responses may be accessed by scrolling down to the 'Published Responses' section, which is just underneath the 'Comments Form' link near the bottom of the page.  Please click on the Published Responses link to access all published project comments.   Comments can be sorted by date or alphabetical order by clicking on the appropriate link.  The search function can also be used to look for comments with key words.

     

    Stakeholder list:

    Adrian.Jackson@environment-Agency.gov.uk

    AndrewK@hop.uk.com

    BRousell@shoreham-port.co.uk

    Bruno.Venturini@wsp.com

    Bryan.Bleeker@southernwater.co.uk

    Chris.Jones@adur-worthing.gov.uk

    Cigolene.Nguyen@southernwater.co.uk

    glenn.longley@adur-worthing.gov.uk

    jezeph@yahoo.com

    kevin@robertbrayassociates.co.uk

    kevin.macknay@westsussex.gov.uk

    Laura.Gibbons@adur-worthing.gov.uk

    Simon.Sharp@southernwater.co.uk

    Sophie.Brown@naturalengland.org.uk

    stephen.cantwell@adur-worthing.gov.uk

    steve.mitchell@port.ac.uk

    Tom.Gillham@westsussex.gov.uk

    Charlotte.Markey@polypipe.com

    Maria.Menga@polypipe.com

    johnroberts@epg-ltd.co.uk

    lee.swift@environment-agency.gov.uk

    Jenny.Hornsby@environment-agency.gov.uk

    Lee-Ann.Maritz@polypipe.com

    david.burgess@polypipe.com


    Project Aim

    To explore the feasibility, design challenges and potential benefits of directing rooftop drainage for waterfront developments over the seawall rather than to traditional underground gravity drainage networks the discharges of which are constrained by tidal flaps.

    Background to the Study

    The geography of the urban coastal strip of West Sussex presents significant issues for surface water management.  During winter months, particularly when ground water levels are high, pluvial run-off from the South Downs drains rapidly onto the coastal flood plain and typically enters culverts that drain via tidally constrained gravity outfalls through sea walls.

     

    Potential flood storage inside the defended coastline is very limited and pressure for housing development is increasingly targeting some of the few remaining sites that offer such capacity.   The expansion of urban areas over recent decades, in combination with the increased intensity of rainfall events associated with climate change, has resulted in storm water flows entering the system at rates that exceed their capacity to drain.  Furthermore, as one looks ahead throughout the lifetime of new developments the constraints on the traditional surface water sewer network will increase as a consequence of sea level rise that will further restrict the period during which existing tidal flaps can operate.

     

    Figure 1 illustrates the problem of constrained surface water discharge in and around Shoreham Harbour.

     


     

    Figure 1 Plan of Shoreham Harbour showing surface water flood risk.


    Figure 1: Plan of Shoreham Harbour showing surface water flood risk


    Shoreham Harbour is the subject of a major regeneration forming a key element of the Adur Local Plan and the Joint Area Action Plan https://www.adur-worthing.gov.uk/shoreham-harbour-regeneration/about/

    The regeneration offers a unique opportunity to work with developers  through the master planning process to trial an innovative and more sustainable approach to managing rooftop run-off that will form a significant element of the drainage from the development.

     

    Outcomes

     

    • Contribute to reduction in surface water flood risk for coastal communities in defended floodplain;
    • Investigate the opportunities, constraints and overall feasibility of ‘over the wall’ drainage for waterfront developments;
    • Work with the Kingston Wharf development team in particular to apply this innovative approach to the design of drainage for the scheme.
    • Influence developers to adopt more innovative and sustainable design in drainage; it is stressed that the concept of over the wall drainage does not necessarily rule out the scope for rainwater harvesting / re-use where space and feasibility allows; such an in-combination option will be explored as part of the study;
    • Assess the relative costs and benefits of traditional vs ‘over the wall’ drainage; and 
    • Though publication and dissemination of the Study, initiate a wider debate on the possible merits of a changed approach to drainage of waterfront developments.

     

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